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comment_5858275

joeg made a good point in the "Comments that don't require a thread" thread:

Most of the guys you listed are FCW, DSW, or OVW guys. That’s the thing The performance center doesn’t seem to be having the same track record so far  as either OVW or FCW was my point. Honestly I think this could start its own thread. They built the performance center with the goal of bringing in better quality of athletes and starting them from scratch. Yet the NXT / performance center model has proven less successful at doing this than its predecessors despite the significant investment and cost of the venture. There is no doubt that there are more elite athletes going into the developmental system now, yet fewer seem to be making it out to the main roster. The guys who do make it to the main roster now seem to be guys who weren’t necessarily elite athletes starting from scratch but guys with plenty of experience prior to being signed to WWE.

 

It seems that the Performance Center is functioning more as a finishing school for guys who wrestled elsewere to get the needed polishing to go to the main WWE roster. Yet WWE itself claims that the PC is where all this homegrown talent is coming from, something that really hasn't borne fruit as of yet. 

comment_5858284

I think they're needs to be a smaller tier below NXT for straight out  of the gate new workers like an OVW. If they do decide to go full territory and have smaller NXT territories around the world that they can send folks around to for seasoning then use the PC and main NXT program and the finishing school like others mentioned then you'd probably see more homegrown stars come out of it instead of just the notable exceptions like Alexa, Braun or Bianca Belair being another one coming up.

 

comment_5858306

So at any time the performance center has between 60 and 75 former professional and D1 athletes training to be professional wrestlers. By my count 5 have started in the performance center (Strowman, Bliss, Gable, Akam, Razar) and made it to the main roster since it opened 5 years ago. There are others who started in FCW then moved on to the performance center like Baron Corbin who made it onto the main roster.  That is a low batting percentage anyway you look at it. It is almost as if they are trying to run people off. At one point they had Shawne Marriman down there and he didn't make it onto TV for christ sake. It seems like every time they make an announcement of the new signees there is at least one of two guys whose athletic career I'm familiar with. And that announcement is the last time I ever see that person again. With the facility and the pool of athletes they have down there, I was sort of expecting more Akam and Razar types and fewer Steen and Generico types to be making the main roster. That hasn't been the case. 

comment_5858416

Even then Gable was wrestling before hitting up WWE, though I'm unsure for how long.

Wasn't there a former footballer (?) A couple years back that seemed to be doing well? I remember watching some form of NXT behind the curtain type show and it followed him around his day. He was well dressed, had the height/look and spoke eloquently. Wonder where he got to.

 

comment_5858437

I saw Patrick Clark wrestle for Maryland Championship Wrestling, he was really fucking good before going to WWE. Big Cass was trained by Johnny Rodz and worked the New York indies for two years before going to WWE then spend time in FCW. Big E was an FCW guy, I'm pretty sure he was on main roster before the PC even opened.  I wouldn't consider any of them PC products. Clark is the closest thing to a PC product of those mentioned because he wasn't in developmental prior to the reorganization of the developmental system and construction of the PC the way Cass and Enzo were. 

comment_5858702

I don't think anybody would call it a failure, I wouldn't call it a success either though. The PC/NXT system has been around 5 years.

In the first 5 years OVW started Lesnar, the Bashams, Randy Orton, Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin, Dolf Ziggler, and Matt Morgan all from scratch. Batista, Jon Cena, Ron Waterman, Lance Cade, Rennee Dupree, CM Punk, Ken Doane, all started elsewhere but went through OVW in those first 5 years.  

Deep South was only around for 3 years or so. In those 3 years The Miz, Ryback, Kenny Omega, Heath Slater, MVP, all went through Deep South. 

FCW was only open 5 years. Over half the current roster either started in FCW or spent a considerable amount of time there. 

So when you look at track record, the Performance Center doesn't seem to have the same sort of success as any of the previous developmental territories. 

comment_5858708

As of now, the Performance Center is less effective than the Power Plant in producing stars/workers. I mean, Enzo, Cass, Nia Jaxx, Carmella ? That's a pretty rotten records thus far. Braun sucked big time when he debuted, he learned on the road/TV. 

NXT is an indy/foreign workers recycling machine, has been for years now.

Call it window dressing for the stock holders, really. WWE ain't producing shit themselves at this time, they are just buying the best talent around. 

(and yeah, one day, Corny's work will get the credit it deserves for developing the stars of the 00's/early 10's in OVW)

comment_5858712
On 7/26/2018 at 1:48 AM, SPS said:

I think they're needs to be a smaller tier below NXT for straight out  of the gate new workers like an OVW.

This. The main reason for not having more PC guys on the main roster is that NXT is not a development league but rather a TV show that has its main focus in producing great wrestling and is hiring the best talent on the market to reach that goal. So the development guys barely get any TV time and I suppose not enough ring time in front of a crowd.

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