11 minutes ago, sek69 said:

Looks like Triple H is going to need surgery for whatever injury he got today, so maybe a silver lining from today will be no plodding WM "instant classic" match.

Allegedly, it's a torn pectoral muscle but I'm not 100% sure.

Yeah torn pec for Hunter.  No Batista match/HHH at Mania now for sure

Didn't watch. Won't watch. This show sounds terrible. If its not worse than any of the later WCW shows, its as bad from the sounds of it. Like, those later WCW shows were bad - but they had 3 Count and Mysterio and Juventud and Scott Steiner was entertaining and Mike Sanders was kinda cool sorta (I'm actually reviewing those WCW shows now on my blog and they are terrible, but there are moments of entertainment). 

But this show sounds like it would be worse because it would be longer than even the worst WCW PPV. 

Lesnar is champion again? Why? Shane McMahon won the World Cup? 

I don't care if this is all "build up to Survivor Series," this shit is ridic.

Shawn did enough to silence most critics

The gifs from the glue factory match are hilarious.

Reading the results, if this show wasn't a complete travesty to begin with, on booking and execution alone, it's a fucking disaster. WCW 2000 indeed.

Yeah didn't see it obvs. but this show sounds like a  slightly longer Thunder from Spring 2000 WCW

Booker T is a fucking imbecile.

"And what the H**l was that journalist doing over there anyway, after his controversial comments?”

https://www.pwpodcasts.com/2018/11/02/recap-and-review-heated-conversations-with-booker-t-with-ariel-helwani-on-getting-a-lifetime-ban-from-ufc-a-potential-brock-lesnar-daniel-cormier-fight-bookers-thoughts-on-roman-reigns-crown-jew/

Wow. No words.

We should take a moment to appricate what a tough bastard H is. From finishing a match with a torn quad to working pretty much the whole match here with a torn pec....dude must not have any pain receptors. 

The last portion of the show was total fun. Brock kicking Braun's ass in 3 minutes with like 4 F5s and literally nothing else. Shane McMahon becoming the best wrestler in the world today, pinning Dolph Ziggler in 2 1/2 minutes. And the DX/Brothers epic.. wild

Meltz says this is the start of a Shane heel turn and that him winning the tournament was the plan since they first announced it

He also said that Strowman is scheduled to get another match with Lesnar around Rumble or Mania. Lesnar's new contract includes 2 other matches (including the one with AJ at Survivor Series).

Sad to hear on both accounts. Shane O is a great babyface authority figure, we do not need another heel one. I was hoping this was just ramping up the Survivor Series RAW vs SDL stuff like he did last year where Shane came off kind of heelish at times and that was it. Zero desire to ever see another brock/braun match.. it sucked last year, today, and next time... move on to someone else please.

Shane was fucking jacked. Do yourself a favor and stop wearing those awful jersies for good.

12 hours ago, C.S. said:

That isn't Virgil...

So either that guy very much looks like Virgil or I am "they all look the same" racist.

Was there any report on what the Attendance was for Crown Jewel?

No woman on her own, that's for sure.

Wait. They abruptly & unexpectedly lose Roman to a life-threatening illness, and their immediate solution is to suddenly bury their second biggest star? In favor of what? Another Brock run with the beef red belt? Fuck me running.

2018 WWE has to be a strong contender for single Worst Booked Year of any major promotion ever. I guess you could disqualify it on the grounds that the booking has never mattered less in terms of their profit, but fuck. This is a dreadful low that makes 1999 look at least tolerable.

Both are shit. Don't get me wrong. But one is the shade of shit in which NOTHING ever happens & nothing matters. The other is a different shade of shit in which TOO MUCH happens & tries to matter.

Nonsensical show with bizarre booking. Shane McMahon really? Also they have ruined Brock beyond belief and putting the title back on him is the most regressive move they could have done. Shawn looked alright I guess but did he really need to ruin his near perfect retirement for this? 

Are they entering that mandatory Survivor Series mode where they're going to start pretending that the two brands really hate each other & represent drastically different philosophical values or some shit?

I would normally say it's shoehorned in and disruptive to their ongoing booking, but there really isn't any ongoing continuity to adhere to, so... Problem solves itself, I guess.

KOTR 1995 2: Electric Boogaloo

3 hours ago, SomethingSavage said:

Wait. They abruptly & unexpectedly lose Roman to a life-threatening illness, and their immediate solution is to suddenly bury their second biggest star? In favor of what? Another Brock run with the beef red belt? Fuck me running.

2018 WWE has to be a strong contender for single Worst Booked Year of any major promotion ever. I guess you could disqualify it on the grounds that the booking has never mattered less in terms of their profit, but fuck. This is a dreadful low that makes 1999 look at least tolerable.

Both are shit. Don't get me wrong. But one is the shade of shit in which NOTHING ever happens & nothing matters. The other is a different shade of shit in which TOO MUCH happens & tries to matter.

I was on a podcast when they announced Lesnar vs. Braun and my first reaction was "They're putting the belt on Lesnar and they're going to make Braun look like a total bitch in the process". The other guys said no way, that would be the dumbest thing they could possibly do. I've found betting on them to do the dumbest thing imaginable is the safest money.

They have absolutely ruined Braun though. The last 3 months have cooled him off a lot.

Meanwhile, Lesnar is probably the smartest guy in pro-wrestling, ever. The ratio money/actual work is insane.

Yeah. get paid millions to show up 4 times a year and do shitty 2 minute matches. He's got a scam going that can't be beat.

The question was who would replace Reigns with and we got the answer at this show.

At WrestleMania, they dealt a huge blow to any chance Reigns had of being a transcendent star by having him job to Lesnar and at this show, they did the same  thing to Braun. The ceiling for him is now set after a woeful 2018. There was once a feeling he could be "the next Taker" or "the next Brock," a truly larger-than-life attraction with-or-without the belt that, if treated seriously, could make real money. Moving forward, though, now its just a question of just how identical his career will be to Big Show's. Not a knock against Show or his career, but Strowman could've been more. 

If WrestleMania XIV happened today, Shawn Michaels would've retained over Austin. If 2018 Vince switched places with 1987 Vince, Andre would've beat Hulk at WrestleMania III. 

I'm with the argument that 2018 has been the WWE's worst booked year. Even dull years like 95' could almost be excused just based on the thin roster. In 2018, there's just no excuse for what they put on TV. And the truth is, the root of these problems actually goes back years now as the company staunchly refused to listen to their fans and build up the stars the crowd was behind. They've had opportunities to bring guys up the ladder, but they staved it off and now, years later, those could-be superstars are too cold/stale/stagnant to feel like they could be main eventers (see E, Big).