August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927176 18 minutes ago, sek69 said: Plus no one is buying WWE shows as PPVs, only as Network subs these days. (Yes I realize there are a small amount of people who actually do buy WWE shows on PPV, but statistically it's too small of a number to matter anymore). That's the point. Even if it doesn't work, it costs WWE nothing because Network subscriptions are already locked in.
August 30, 20205 yr Author comment_5927178 4 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: #standupforwwe bubba, it's just not that serious all the time like, them booking takeover-lites could be seen as counter programming putting things on different days? nah aew fans don't care about wwe, even moreso a main roster ppv, to be fatigued
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927180 52 minutes ago, DMJ said: Anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that for some reason, against all logic, Roman Reigns does not leave with the title tonight? What I'd do: Roman beats the living shit out of both guys, going above and beyond the pale, until he's DQed for excessive force. Otis cashes in and wins. Roman destroys Otis in a few months, further cementing his (presumed) heel turn BIG DOG STYLE!
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927181 To go back to the original question - cuz I really am genuinely curious what everyone thinks as I view this forum as being pretty knowledgeable and bright - what is the thought process behind this show? I mean, it is pretty "experimental" to run a Network Special 7 days after SummerSlam. As someone else mentioned, it does bring to mind This Tuesday in Texas and Taboo Tuesday, which were shows where they were obviously testing the waters for...well...I"m not sure. I guess it wasn't obvious. That's why I'm asking the minds here. What was the motivation for those? Is it the same or different than this show? I outlined my theories on the first page, but they're just theories. Has Meltzer or anyone else opined about it?
August 30, 20205 yr Author comment_5927182 5 minutes ago, C.S. said: What I'd do: Roman beats the living shit out of both guys, going above and beyond the pale, until he's DQed for excessive force. How's he gonna get DQ'd when it's No Holds Barred 2 minutes ago, DMJ said: To go back to the original question - cuz I really am genuinely curious what everyone thinks as I view this forum as being pretty knowledgeable and bright - what is the thought process behind this show? Gotta milk the Big Dog Bump, bubba. I mean, you use Summerslam as the return, SmackDown as the reveal he's with Heyman, and instead of waiting for the next PPV on September, you do it on Sunday, bumping the ratings for a second week in a row.
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927183 I'll just say this: when dealing with WWE, the best bet is to assume the scummiest possible scenario that can be reconciled with the available facts. Call it McMahon's Razor. 7 minutes ago, C.S. said: What I'd do: Roman beats the living shit out of both guys, going above and beyond the pale, until he's DQed for excessive force. Otis cashes in and wins. Roman destroys Otis in a few months, further cementing his (presumed) heel turn BIG DOG STYLE! It's No Holds Barred, bubba. https://www.wwe.com/shows/wwepayback/08-30-2020/universal-champion-bray-wyatt-vs-roman-reigns-vs-braun-strowman Also make note of the fact that Braun is now known as "The Monster." The quotation marks are part of his name, apparently.
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927185 Looks like we haven't heard the last of the Hacker, after all. Are you thinking what I'm thinking, gentlemen?
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927187 WWE usually hit it out of the park with video packages, but that intro was cringe worthy. Lashley vs Crews to open the show. At least we can get the least interesting match out of the way first.
August 30, 20205 yr Author comment_5927188 Just now, DMJ said: I think so? Stephanie is the leader of Retribution? hacking is the new philanthropy!
August 30, 20205 yr Author comment_5927189 "As you know, the Hurt Business is in the business of hurt"
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927190 34 minutes ago, sek69 said: Booker made himself look like a boot licking clown there. Like he always does. I don't buy the "PPV fatigue" theory. Or they really are in complete denial about their audience. AEW's core audience doesn't watch WWE. WWE's audience is more susceptible to die from COVID. If anything, they'll fatigue their own audience (I mean, another "PPV" already ?) 1 hour ago, NintendoLogic said: This card has a Fiend match, a Corbin match, a Nia Jax match, and an IIconics match. Das 5 stars rating ! Negative 5 stars that is.
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927191 19 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: How's he gonna get DQ'd when it's No Holds Barred 18 minutes ago, NintendoLogic said: It's No Holds Barred, bubba. It's WWE, Bubba. Didn't Seth vs. Bray end in a no-contest despite being a Hell in a Cell match? (Either that or some other unmemorable match/stip I've already forgotten.)
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927192 Also, I know its not really worth mentioning, but since NXT stopped being a development league and became a "3rd brand," have they actually featured a real NXT match on any PPV? At least when they did ECW, they threw it a bone on most of the major shows.
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927193 IIconics match wasn't bad, they are much better in ring than they used to be. Liv out there being the dumbest babyface in the history of dumb babyfaces tho.
August 30, 20205 yr Author comment_5927194 Just now, sek69 said: IIconics match wasn't bad, they are much better in ring than they used to be. Liv out there being the dumbest babyface in the history of dumb babyfaces tho. Yeah, at least Liv and Ruby won despite going through the same storyline beats.
August 30, 20205 yr Author comment_5927196 Not a bad match, too. MVP not only helped revitalize Apollo, but Lashley as well.
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927198 MVP is great in this role. That was a fun little match. No complaints.
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927199 Lashley being in the opening card U.S. Title scene and nowhere near the World Title is always good news. He's the weak link of The Hurt Business, and it's not even close. Both MVP and Shelton are far more interesting inside the ring and out.
August 30, 20205 yr Author comment_5927200 At the same time, Lashley feels above it. That segment with JBL and Lee was weird.
August 30, 20205 yr Author comment_5927201 Now, two big meaty men slapping meat! The best form of pro wrestling
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927202 Yeah, JBL: Champion of Black Wrestlers is a weird and unexpected turn.
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927203 2 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: At the same time, Lashley feels above it. I agree, and I don't like Lashley. 3 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: That segment with JBL and Lee was weird. I zoned out and missed it. What was JBL offering Keith Lee?
August 30, 20205 yr comment_5927204 2 minutes ago, sek69 said: Yeah, JBL: Champion of Black Wrestlers is a weird and unexpected turn. i.e. WWE whitewashing.
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