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I have been thinking about this forever. I have been thinking about "remastering" the WWF set. With the tons of 24/7 out there, the handhelds, commercial releases, etc., I want to remaster this set. I have it broken down where I honor the first 50 matches. After that, I plan to include matches that will be on the errata set and maybe some other gems I find along the way or personal favorites. I want to give you guys a chance to chime in.

 

The following are the Bottom 50. Are there any matches you think deserve a 2nd look?

 

 

51-75:

4/8/80 Bob Backlund vs. Hulk Hogan (Spectrum)

4/21/80 Ken Patera vs. Pat Patterson (MSG)

4/21/80 Bruno Sammartino vs. Larry Zbyszko (MSG)

10/20/80 Ken Patera vs. Pedro Morales (MSG)

6/6/81 Bob Backlund vs. Stan Hansen (MSG)

6/4/83 Bob Backlund vs. Ivan Koloff (Philadelphia, PA)

5/5/84 Hulk Hogan vs. Iron Sheik (Philadelphia, PA)

6/2/84 Sgt. Slaughter vs. Paul Orndorff (Philadelphia, PA)

9/1/84 Tito Santana vs. Paul Orndorff (St. Louis)

12/1/84 Bob Orton Jr. vs. Mike Rotundo (Philadelphia)

3/2/85 Les Thornton vs. Mr. Wrestling II (Atlanta, GA)

1/27/86 Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage (MSG)

2/17/86 Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage (MSG)

8/9/86 Tito Santana vs. Bob Orton Jr. (Boston, MA)

8/28/86 Ricky Steamboat vs. Jake Roberts (Toronto Big Event)

12/14/86 Hulk Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff (Hartford, CT aired 1/3/87 SNME)

5/12/87 Tito Santana vs. Butch Reed (Anaheim)

8/22/87 Honky Tonk Man vs. Ricky Steamboat (MSG)

11/26/87 Team Team survivors Match (Survivor Series)

4/25/88 Bret Hart vs. Bad News Brown (MSG)

12/30/88 Tim Horner vs. Barry Horowitz (MSG)

2/11/89 Rick Rude vs. Tito Santana (Boston, MA)

2/16/89 Hulk Hogan vs. Bad News Brown (Hersey, PA aired 3/11/89 SNME)

4/2/89 Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan (Wrestlemania)

5/17/89 Hart Foundation vs. Twin Towers (Duluth, MN)

 

Bottom 25

4/8/80 Bruno Sammartino vs. Larry Zbyszko (Philadelphia, PA)

12/29/80 Ken Patera vs. Pat Patterson (MSG)

6/20/81 Sgt. Slaughter vs. Rick McGraw (Philadelphia)

11/14/81 Andre the Giant vs. Killer Khan (Philadelphia)

11/23/81 Don Muraco vs. Pedro Morales (MSG)

9/18/82 Johnny Rodz/Jose Estrada vs. Tony Garea/Steve Travis (Philadelphia, PA)

11/25/82 Johnny Rodz vs. Kuniaki Kobayashi (Philadelphia, PA)

8/16/83 Don Muraco vs. Jimmy Snuka (Philadelphia, PA)

1/21/84 Iron Sheik vs. Tito Santana (Philadelphia, PA)

6/15/84 Adrian Adonis/Dick Murdoch vs. Mil Mascaras/S.D. Jones (St. Louis, MO aired TNT 6/26/84)

6/17/84 Hulk Hogan vs. David Shultz (Minneapolis)

7/7/84 Hulk Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff (Philadelphia, PA)

7/20/84 Jimmy Snuka vs. Roddy Piper (St. Louis, MO)

1/12/85 Roddy Piper/Bob Orton Jr. vs. Jimmy Snuka/Tony Atlas (Philadelphia, PA)

5/20/85 Hulk Hogan vs. Don Muraco (MSG)

6/21/85 Hulk Hogan vs. Don Muraco (MSG)

8/17/85 Ricky Steamboat/Junkyard Dog vs. Don Muraco/Mr. Fuji (Landover, MD)

10/3/85 Hulk Hogan vs. Nikolai Volkoff (East Rutherford, NJ aired SNME 10/5/85)

10/26/85 Bruno Sammartino/Paul Orndorff vs. Roddy Piper/Bob Orton Jr. (Philadelphia, PA)

3/16/86 Randy Savage vs. Tito Santana (MSG)

5/12/87 Hulk Hogan vs. Bob Orton Jr. (Anaheim)

9/16/87 Ted DiBiase vs. Jacques Rougeau (Rockford)

3/12/88 Hulk Hogan vs. Ted DiBiase (Philadelphia, PA)

11/6/88 Brainbusters vs. Young Stallions (Toronto)

1/16/89 Randy Savage vs. Bad News Brown (Hamilton)

 

 

 

These are the Top 50:

01/10/81 Bob Backlund vs. Sgt. Slaughter (Spectrum)

03/21/81 Bob Backlund vs. Sgt. Slaughter (Spectrum)

05/04/81 Pat Patterson vs. Sgt. Slaughter (MSG)

 

01/18/82 Bob Backlund vs. Adrian Adonis (MSG)

03/20/82 Bob Backlund vs. Adrian Adonis (Philadelphia, PA)

03/28/82 Bob Backlund vs. Adrian Adonis (Landover, MD)

11/25/82 Bob Backlund vs. Buddy Rose (Spectrum)

 

05/19/84 Sgt. Slaughter vs. Iron Sheik (Landover, MD)

05/21/84 Sgt. Slaughter vs. Iron Sheik (MSG)

06/16/84 Sgt. Slaughter vs. The Iron Sheik (MSG)

07/07/84 Adrian Adonis/Dick Murdoch vs. Bob Backlund/Brian Blair (Philadelphia, PA)

07/23/84 Adrian Adonis & Dick Murdoch vs. Sgt. Slaughter & Terry Daniels (MSG)

12/28/84 Adrian Adonis/Dick Murdoch vs. The Brisco Brothers (MSG)

 

02/16/85 Barry Windham vs. Dick Murdoch (Philadelphia, PA)

04/21/85 Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake vs. Ricky Steamboat & Tito Santana (Toronto)

06/21/85 Greg Valentine vs. Ricky Steamboat (MSG)

07/20/85 Ricky Steamboat vs. Bob Orton Jr. (Landover)

09/14/85 Dynamite Kid vs. Bret Hart (Landover)

09/23/85 British Bulldogs vs. Hart Foundation (MSG)

 

03/08/86 Ricky Steamboat vs. Bret Hart (Boston)

04/07/86 Dream Team vs. British Bulldogs (Wrestlemania II)

04/22/86 Randy Savage vs. Tito Santana (MSG)

07/12/86 Randy Savage/Adrian Adonis vs. Tito Santana/Bruno Sammartino (MSG)

07/27/86 Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat (Toronto, Ontario)

08/09/86 Ricky Steamboat vs. Jake Roberts (Boston, MA)

09/22/86 Rougeau Bros. vs. Hart Foundation (MSG)

11/01/86 British Bulldogs vs. Hart Foundation (Boston, MA)

11/15/86 Randy Savage vs. Jake Roberts (SNME: Los Angeles)

 

02/23/87 Hart Foundation vs. Killer Bees (MSG)

03/29/87 Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage (Wrestlemania III)

08/22/87 Tito Santana vs. Ron Bass (MSG)

10/03/87 Strike Force vs. Islanders (Boston, MA)

11/11/87 Bret Hart vs. Randy Savage (Seattle)

11/24/87 Glamour Girls vs. Jumping Bomb Angels (MSG)

 

07/22/88 Randy Savage vs. Ted DiBiase (MSG)

08/13/88 Blue Angel vs. Barry Horowitz (Los Angeles)

11/24/88 Tag Team Survivors Match (Survivor Series)

 

03/08/89 Bret Hart vs. Ted DiBiase (Odessa)

03/18/89 Mr. Perfect vs. Ron Garvin (Boston, MA)

03/18/89 Hulk Hogan vs. Big Bossman (MSG)

04/24/89 Jake Roberts vs. Ted DiBiase (MSG)

08/28/89 Brainbusters vs. Hart Foundation (SummerSlam)

08/28/89 Ultimate Warrior vs. Rick Rude (Summerslam)

09/30/89 Greg Valentine vs. Ron Garvin (MSG)

10/02/89 Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (Wheeling, WV)

10/10/89 Fabulous Rougeau Bros. vs. Rockers (London, England)

10/13/89 Rockers vs. Rougeau Bros. (Paris) 10/31/89 Rockers vs. Brainbusters (11/25/89 SNME)

12/12/89 Mr. Perfect vs. Ronnie Garvin (Nashville, TN)

12/28/89 Rick Rude vs. Roddy Piper (MSG)

 

 

 

These are jdw suggested matches. Some of them I agree with 100%. Others I have to watch for myself. Off the top of my head, I don't think the SUperstar match goes on but I'll have to check.

1/21/80 Bob Backlund vs. Ken Patera (MSG)

5/19/80 Bob Backlund vs. Ken Patera (MSG)

10/11/80 Bob Backlund vs. Larry Zbyszko (Spectrum)

10/20/80 Bob Backlund vs. Sgt. Slaughter (MSG)

11/8/80 Ken Patera vs. Bruno Sammartino (Spectrum)

2/16/81 Bob Backlund vs. Stan Hansen (MSG)

9/21/81 Bob Backlund vs. Don Muraco (MSG)

6/28/82 Bob Backlund vs. Jimmy Snuka

8/30/82 Bob Backlund vs. Buddy Rose (MSG)

10/17/81 Bob Backlund vs. Don Muraco (Spectrum)

11/23/81 Bob Backlund vs. Greg Valentine (MSG)

5/22/82 Bob Backlund vs. Bob Orton (Spectrum)

10/17/83 Bob Backlund vs. Masked Superstar

4/23/84 Bob Backlund vs. Greg Valentine (MSG)

 

 

 

My suggestions

Chavo Guerrero vs. Tatsumi Fujinami (Shea 8/9/80) (NJC 90)

Tiger Mask vs. Dynamite Kid (WWF Junior Title) (8/30/82) (NJC 130)

Piper vs. Orndorff

6 man elimination tag

 

Loss suggestion

10-man elimination tag from Philly

comment_5430959

My opinion on what deserves another look, that I liked, from the provided lists:

 

51-75:

6/4/83 Bob Backlund vs. Ivan Koloff (Philadelphia, PA)

12/1/84 Bob Orton Jr. vs. Mike Rotundo (Philadelphia)

8/22/87 Honky Tonk Man vs. Ricky Steamboat (MSG)

 

Bottom 25

6/20/81 Sgt. Slaughter vs. Rick McGraw (Philadelphia)

 

 

jdw suggested

5/19/80 Bob Backlund vs. Ken Patera (MSG)

10/20/80 Bob Backlund vs. Sgt. Slaughter (MSG)

6/28/82 Bob Backlund vs. Jimmy Snuka

8/30/82 Bob Backlund vs. Buddy Rose (MSG)

11/23/81 Bob Backlund vs. Greg Valentine (MSG)

5/22/82 Bob Backlund vs. Bob Orton (Spectrum)

 

 

Suggested to check out and possibly add from me personally. The dates are a bit vague and I apologize for that (working off of memory here):

 

-Tito Santana vs. Bob Orton, MSG (early 1984. Went to a 20-minute draw IIRC. I enjoyed this bout more than any of the other Santana-Orton bouts talked about or included in these discussions.

 

-Rick Martel vs. Tama (MSG, 1987)

 

-Bob Backlund vs. Greg Valentine (MSG 10/81. The match that set up the "vacant title" rematch on 11/23 that is mentioned by jdw. A lot of people think the ending is goofy but I really think it works as a way to hold up the title. Good bout to boot).

 

-Tito Santana vs. Adrian Adonis (Summer 1984, St. Louis). I picked up the last 15 minutes of this 30-minute draw by accident from Charles Warburton as it was on one of his AWA/Central States/WWF tapes which I picked up for the AWA TV eps. Two of my favourite workers ever and this bout does not disappoint. If anyone knows of a full version of this (not sure it even aired full), I'd love to know about it/pick it up.

 

-Orton vs. Santana (Detroit 4/26/86).

 

-Rodz vs. Rivera (Philly 2/19/83--for some reason I remember this being fun).

 

Hope this helps a bit.

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comment_5433177

The following are the Bottom 50. Are there any matches you think deserve a 2nd look?

I really liked:

4/8/80 Bob Backlund vs. Hulk Hogan (Spectrum) and

4/8/80 Bruno Sammartino vs. Larry Zbyszko (Philadelphia, PA)

4/21/80 Bruno Sammartino vs. Larry Zbyszko (MSG)

I think all three ended up in my top 25.

 

Jdw has said good things about the Tito v Rude match.

 

These are the Top 50:

I thought these matches were pretty ass:

07/07/84 Adrian Adonis/Dick Murdoch vs. Bob Backlund/Brian Blair (Philadelphia, PA)

07/23/84 Adrian Adonis & Dick Murdoch vs. Sgt. Slaughter & Terry Daniels (MSG)

04/21/85 Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake vs. Ricky Steamboat & Tito Santana (Toronto)

04/07/86 Dream Team vs. British Bulldogs (Wrestlemania II)

11/24/88 Tag Team Survivors Match (Survivor Series)

03/18/89 Mr. Perfect vs. Ron Garvin (Boston, MA)

12/12/89 Mr. Perfect vs. Ronnie Garvin (Nashville, TN)

My sense from the 24/7 I have watched is more than a WWF set there are a bunch of guys who worked meaningless undercard to midcard workrate matches who I'd like to see sets for: I'd love to see an Islanders set, a Koko in WWF set, and more than anything else a MOONDOGS~! in WWF set (guys who I rmembered as being nothing but dull brawling and bone shots in WWF but who I look forward to seeing everytime they show up in 24/7).

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comment_5436512

Terry Funk v. Hulk Hogan from 12/15/85 is as good as 90% of the Hogan matches on the original set. Funk is doing all of his crazy bumping and stooging, and Hogan's offense looked pretty good, with some nice jabs, a back suplex and a great looking jumping elbow drop. Bulldogs v. Dream Team from the same match is the best I have seen from those two teams too, Bulldogs aren't my favorite, but then break out some huge spots

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