That Hogan v. Hennig match from the XWF couldn't have had many people there.

Here's a

. Flair's great in it.

 

Two woman in the crowd are talking about 'sexiness', Hulk mentions to stay away from Flair, causing Flair to snipe that he should tell his fiancée the same thing. BOOM!

I just got back from it and it was about as bad as one would expect. But hey, I got to see Hogan vs. Flair (albeit a long time past their use by dates) so I can die a slightly happier man. Can't complain with paying $50 for a 3rd row seat.

 

Both Hogan and Flair bled with Flair's being a pretty big gusher. Hogan won after hitting Flair with brass knucks that Flair had used earlier.

 

Crowd was bigger than I though it would be. I'm terrible at estimating things like this but I would say at least 7000.

 

And on a pointless note, Umaga looks tiny next to Rikishi. At one point Umaga was standing behind him and he looked like a little kid.

That Hogan v. Hennig match from the XWF couldn't have had many people there.

Wasn't that the same soundstage the one TNA uses? I think it holds more than Centre Stage, albeit maybe 100-150 more.

A tidit from Meltzer on the Observer board about Flair doing the tour:

 

"The funny part of the whole thing is Flair called Vince before signing the contract.

 

Three weeks later WWE made him a big offer to return, dependent upon him no-showing the tour, which he couldn't do at that point. "

I really look forward to getting a copy of the show that's being taped. Could be a load of Bad Fun.

 

John

Someone at CM also did a handheld of the first show.

Knowing Ric and Hulk, it will be the same match every night. I think the reason to get a handheld would be if they don't double juice for TV, especially Ric hitting the gusher.

 

John

Saw the pic he put up of it... my lord does Ric look bad. --> even from someone who bags on Ric left and right.

 

John

And Hogan looks fat. Look at those love handles brutha, this is where the power lies.

And it seems Hogan is bringing Sid to TNA. What's not to love ?

I'd be careful if I was Sid. All those extra points of impact in a six sided ring could really be bad for a guy's legs.

 

 

Uh so are both these guys just wide around the stomach from not doing enough crunches/situps or is this a serious case of GH gut?

Honestly, I wouldn't be embarrassed to have Flair's body when I'm 60.

Doing crunches and situps have little to do with the amount of fat on one's stomach. You work on the muscles when you do that and not the fat.

Flair's actually in not bad shape for a 60 year old dude. Hogan's body is what happens when your at an age where working out to keep fit is essential but your body is too broken down to do it properly.

As a wrestler, compared to what he was Flair looks pretty bad with the balding hair and saggy body, but he looks fine by normal 60 year old guy standards. Not that I'd particularly care to watch these two now but they've got enough charisma, schtick and willingness to bleed which alone makes them more entertaining than anything I'd want to see from TNA currently.

I think Flair has a beer gut and Hulk has a GH gut.

Flair looks awful and bloated, and there's nothing more embarrassing than trying to hide the bad hairline. Cut a haircut already...

Compare Flair vs Inoki at the same age, it's day and night. Inoki was still fit and looked great.

I never understood why he started going with the wet hair look, that only makes it more apparent that your hair is thinning. Besides, I don't think even in a looks-oriented business like wrestling that people would hold it against you if your hair wasn't as thick at 60 as it was when you were 30.

The worst hair offender is Micheals though. He's already looking ridiculous doing the Heartbreak Kid gimmick at his age, but the long hair + balding make sit look even worse. The guy will look terrible at 60 if he lives that far of course.

Meanwhile, guys like Riki Choshu or Kawada don't seem to age that much.

Honestly, I wouldn't be embarrassed to have Flair's body when I'm 60.

Yeah, there are a lot of respects in which I would not want to be like Flair when I am 60, but his body really isn't one of them.

Yeah, I don't think he looks so bad either. I just wanted to know if you guys thought it was a GH gut. If not, then I wouldn't mind looking like that when I'm 60. If so, then no.

I dunno. A lot of people speculated (probably correctly) that he was juicing during his last WWE run just so that his body wouldn't start looking any worse than it already did, but never really thought of him as having a GH gut then, so I'd guess it's either not a GH gut, or he changed up what he was taking in a way that would cause a GH gut that he didn't seem to have in the WWE. Worth noting that one of the big reasons wrestlers turn to steroids/HGH is because they are expected to maintain incredible physiques, but do not have nearly the time necessary to do so naturally due to their hectic schedule, with this being primarily true in the WWE. Flair's schedule has been far more lax since retirement, and even now that he's out of retirement, the Hulkamania tour seems like it would be far less grueling than working WWE full time would be. That's not to say he's not on something - it's professional wrestling, no one is above suspicion - but it is possible for a 60 year old man to have that body with the right combo of genetics and dedication without drugs. So you can draw your own conclusions about that, whatever they may be.

Meanwhile, guys like Riki Choshu or Kawada don't seem to age that much.

Riki Choshu aged dramatically between 1983 and 1989 and looks ancient these days. Not that it would really matter if any of these guys could work. If Flair and Hogan were 60 year old luchadores who could work a little, they'd be cool.

In the comparison of "guys that are somewhat famous and have become parodies of themselves as they age", Ric Flair looks like he has a hell of a lot less time left on this planet than Don Cherry, and Cherry is 75.