October 2, 201113 yr comment_5483970 Does this sound like Dutch: "Core audience is male, 18 to 30 or whatever." Talking about "core audience" is a more modern concept, at least in being written like that. Perhaps Dutch has stayed up to day on lingo like that and incorporated it into his writing. Doesn't seem likely, though. John
October 2, 201113 yr comment_5483971 Not that Heyman is not two faced. But he has been cheerleading this angle on facebook and twitter.
October 3, 201113 yr comment_5483973 Dutch is in touch with things at least on Facebook but I'm just throwing out names.
October 3, 201113 yr comment_5483976 Understood. Was just thinking that the elements of the writing don't sound like someone who is 61. Though perhaps the time in PR (where he / folks for him pimped the ratings) and TNA (which is so TV lingo insane) have brought him up to date. I'd also forgotten that he took a WON Booker of the Year Award for PR... hmmm... Dutch wiki page: Mantel was awarded the 2002 Wrestling Observer Newsletter award of Booker of the Year for his dual achievements of drawing huge crowds to IWA big stadium shows (12 to 15 thousand fans) and for his ratings successes on Puerto Rican TV, which equaled prime time numbers, even though the show aired on weekend afternoons. WON Awards wiki page: Best Booker 2001 Jim Cornette (OVW) 2002 Paul Heyman (WWE) 2003 Jim Cornette (OVW) 2004 Gabe Sapolsky (ROH) 2005 Gabe Sapolsky (ROH) 2006 Gabe Sapolsky (ROH) 2007 Gabe Sapolsky (ROH) Okay... it is pretty funny that Dutch (or someone else editing his Wiki page) stole Paul's 5th of 5 Booker of the Year Awards. "It's not like Paul will miss it..." -Dutch Anyway, setting aside the joking... if Dutch corresponds with Dave, and given Dutch's time in TNA (which is pretty obsessive about core audience stuff), then it's possible that Dutch is up to spend and that's him. Does Dutch appear to keep up with the WWE? John
October 3, 201113 yr comment_5483989 Dutch was on a podcast with Lagana and seemed to have an understanding of the Punk angle. Wasn't Dutch on the booking team in TNA when Punk was their? If that was the case he didn't get a major push there.
October 3, 201113 yr comment_5484005 Punk got fired for the Hart brawl right as his big push was starting.
October 4, 201113 yr comment_5484140 Again, if they saw money in him I don't think they would have fired him.
October 5, 201113 yr comment_5484349 I'm reading the Jerry Jarrett book on the first year of TNA and he copies a lot of emails he would send to Jeff, Wade Keller, etc. and he uses LOL in caps a lot in these emails. So I wouldn't be shocked if it was Jerry Jarrett, especially since he was just on the WON Radio show.
October 5, 201113 yr comment_5484357 I'm about 90% sure it's Jarrett. The pieces fit him better than anyone else
October 6, 201113 yr comment_5484374 I think the line about dates points towards Jarrett. He was always a big believer in promoting to women.
October 6, 201113 yr comment_5484375 Again, if they saw money in him I don't think they would have fired him. It was a very public brawl and TNA was trying to maintain a good reputation in the community at the time.
October 6, 201113 yr comment_5484377 I think the line about dates points towards Jarrett. He was always a big believer in promoting to women.Yeah, and the substance of the "Where are the blow jobs?" conversation was that more female fans means more male fans going with them as well.
October 6, 201113 yr comment_5484378 What is the story with that? Hart antagonized him outside of I think it's called the Whitetrash Cafe and Punk attacked him. Sabu broke it up. Hart was fired immediately and Punk was essentially depushed and gone in a week or two. Now, there's a lot of conflicting info because Hart people and Punk people have been spinning from day 1. But that's about the most neutral version.
October 6, 201113 yr comment_5484393 In that wacky Teddy Hart interview he did a month or so back he goes into a lot of detail about it. The gist is he said he had a bad attitude/was immature at the time so he kind of took the blame for the issues starting. Said he respected Punk for being the only guy who didn't like him who had the balls to actually slap him like he said he would. Also said sometime back they buried the hatchet and are buds now, also confirmed that he did indeed buy CM Punk a spiffy track suit as a peace offering.
October 6, 201113 yr comment_5484402 Punk got fired for the Hart brawl right as his big push was starting. Wait, so the whole "Punk chose ROH over TNA" bit that Punk and Gabe used to love talking about after Feinstein-Gate is BS?
October 6, 201113 yr comment_5484416 50% at least. Those events were weeks apart and Punk was severely in the doghouse for that. I reread and I might have been wrong about him getting fired. He did get taken off tv after that which is probably why I thought he got fired.
October 6, 201113 yr comment_5484418 Yeah, he wasn't being used after the Hart fight but he was still under contract to them then a month or so later TNA pulled all their guys from ROH over the RF deal and he quit to go with ROH.
October 7, 201113 yr comment_5484509 So, Edge is probably the N°1 or 2 guy as far as number of great matches on TV, commanded the audience in a way Dave barely ever saw before, and was a great worker. So, what is Dave smoking exactly ?
October 7, 201113 yr comment_5484510 So, Edge is probably the N°1 or 2 guy as far as number of great matches on TV, commanded the audience in a way Dave barely ever saw before, and was a great worker. So, what is Dave smoking exactly ? Are you sure he didnt mean Eddy and not Edge?
October 7, 201113 yr comment_5484516 Edge had more great matches on TV than Jumbo? Or Kobashi? Kawada? Misawa? Er... John
October 7, 201113 yr comment_5484518 Edge had more great matches on TV than Jumbo? Or Kobashi? Kawada? Misawa? Er... John Sorry, he actually said "PPV", not TV. Mea culpa maxima. That said, it doesn't change anything about my reaction.
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