April 25, 201213 yr comment_5500694 BTW Dave is going to do interview w/the Sports-Catsters Podcast that I follow on Twitter. They mentioned that they got interview w/Frank Deford next month and I suggested that they try to get Dave to do an interview since Deford said in an column that Dave is one of the best beat reporters in Sports. The guy who does the interviews thought it was a great idea and Dave agreed to do the podcast later this week which is pretty cool. Thanks for the heads up on that And yeah, Dave doesn't really maximize his growth potential as far as new media goes. I think it's partly that Alvarez runs kind of a fly-by-night semi-pro operation and Meltz has put a lot of stuff in his hands, partly that he's just from a generation removed and has an old school print mentality, and partly that he's got a family and a kid and is comfortable with the way he does things. He needs Alvarez or somebody else in his ear to push him to new levels, and Alvarez, eh, he's not looking to go that big
April 25, 201213 yr comment_5500696 I don't think Dave has pimped his Grantland column on any of his audio shows that I have listened to. Has he said anything about it in his daily update? Mentioned it in a daily update but didn't directly link to it, just said he had a column up on grantland.com and left it at that
April 25, 201213 yr comment_5500724 --The Observer will be up later tonight or possibly early tomorrow. The sheer volume of news, combined with me being out of town three days this past week and teaching at Stanford yesterday really did a number on it. WHAT
April 25, 201213 yr comment_5500726 I know he was a guest lecturer a few times for a sports business class Bill Walsh used to teach at the business school.
April 26, 201213 yr comment_5500756 Apparently he was lecturing the sports business class about MMA. I got all kinds of digestive trouble after learning that.
April 26, 201213 yr comment_5500832 I hope Dave was telling those kids how there is not great business in being an Agent of MMA fighters since Dana doesn't pay the fighters what they're worth. John
April 27, 201213 yr comment_5500837 He talked about it a bit on one of the radio shows. Didn't really say much other then most of the class had very little interest in MMA and none of the students asked him about pro wrestling at all.
April 27, 201213 yr comment_5500858 I thought the Cauliflower Alley write up was pretty good in the current Observer. I loved all the Steamer stuff and the Final Conflict stuff that he wrote about was tremendous.
April 27, 201213 yr comment_5500873 Todd Martin offhandedly referring to Bryan as "George" (as in George Costanza) made me realize how Dave and Bryan really are like a real life version of Jerry and George.
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501061 Meltz seems to be in a particularly prickly mood tonight covering the PPV. It's like he's reviewing a TNA PPV from 2009-2011 (now he doesn't seem to give a shit anymore)
April 30, 201213 yr Author comment_5501111 The current picture on f4wonline.com will make you want to punch Bryan Alvarez in the face. Check it out and you'll see what I mean.
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501115 The current picture on f4wonline.com will make you want to punch Bryan Alvarez in the face. Check it out and you'll see what I mean. I don't. Can you elaborate ?
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501118 Mmmm'kay. And *that* is giving your the urge to punch Brian Alvarez in the face ? Frankly, the result is puzzling. First match on a B-PPV, Cena wins. Okay. Not exactly the smartest booking ever. There is so many more reason to make you want tp punch Alvarez in the face if you really need to, but that picture, well, I can undertsand the reasonning.
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501119 Bryan on the radio show was acting like it was the worst booking decision ever, which is a bit much. Between Dave going off about people saying ROH wrestlers have no psychology and can't work but still praise WWE matches like Kane vs. Orton and Jericho vs. Punk, and Bryan making a dig at people who say Vince doesn't change his mind and they are instead covering their asses, this was quite the show.
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501121 Well, it gots nothing on the Invasion, but it's still pretty damn stupid. I know everyone is freaking out at the idea Lesnar might decide to run off as soon as he gets bored, but I think at this point this aspect of Lesnar is getting way overstated to justify bad booking. Lesnar should have at least killed Cena here, killed a few other people on his way to SummerSlam and then Cena got the big win. Not overly complicated nor that risqué.
April 30, 201213 yr Author comment_5501124 I think Brock should have won too, but based on how people are describing the match, I am willing to hold judgment on this until I have seen the match itself. Pointing out that how the match is worked was equally important to the result is something specific Dave has said. It's valid, and right now, I feel like I don't know enough to criticize it. The Bryan pic annoys me because he's so ridiculously polemic.
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501126 Taken on his own in a vaacum, I have no issue with Cena winning, as far as work goes everything clicked perfectly. But the booking is a bit ridiculous if you look at the big picture, so I can understand the money burning pic. Polemic makes people talk. Controversy is money, ya know.
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501127 Bryan on the radio show was acting like it was the worst booking decision ever Well, he & to a lesser degree Meltzer rarely accept things for what they are or judge them on their own merrits. Anything that doesn't fit into what his pre determined idea of what good wrestling should be is usually burried pretty badly. From day 1 they were bitching to high heaven that the match shouldn't have even been happening (too soon) and then once they were over that they decided that Lesnar winning clean was the only acceptable finish and that anything else would be stupid.
April 30, 201213 yr Author comment_5501128 Brock will get over by throwing all of WWE's conventions on their collective head. Winning and losing doesn't matter as much as it should, sadly. If the idea from here is that Brock doesn't care about winning and losing, that he cares more about maiming people, there are tons of possibilities and Brock maintains his mystique. You'll never go broke betting against WWE coming through on things like this, but I'm not convinced yet that they've dropped the ball.
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501130 It comes down to this: Lesnar, on an Extreme Rules match, had no real use for the gimmick and was maiming Cena with "legit" moves and his striking, but got screwed by the ref bumps. Cena got a lucky shot with a chain as Brock was barreling towards him and then hit his finisher on the steps to knock Brock loopy for the win after the ref finally woke up. Yeah, Cena should've lost, but in the context of the post-match with Brock staggering around and challenging little kids to fights, it worked.
April 30, 201213 yr comment_5501136 The point is, Lesnar has been beaten, he's not undestructible anymore after his *first match*. And that is retarded. I know this thread is designed to systematically disagree with Meltz, and I don't know what he said specifically, but it baffles me that anyone wants to defend WWE on that one. It's a stupid decision. Will that destroy Lesnar, of course not, but it is still the dummest thing they could have done with him from a booking standpoint.
April 30, 201213 yr Author comment_5501137 A traditional wrestling match filled with back and forth momentum shifts and Lesnar eeking out a win would have been dumber, so yes, there are definitely worse things they could have done.
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